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    Voida coming soon!

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    Post by Necroloth 6/12/2012, 22:09

    Previews of the Voida are out!

    Sounds like an Athan version of Modo... there will be a Light and Dark form which give access to certain skills and you can combo link them. (is it just Athans that have combo functions?)

    Anyone gonna make one?
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    Post by AniLiem 8/12/2012, 07:12

    yeah i am gonna make one ... NOT
    maybe hazy
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    Post by Necroloth 11/12/2012, 19:04

    Does Hazzy play anymore? Not seen him around much!
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    Post by TheHazard 18/12/2012, 22:14

    Heya, yeah I still play, but not as active as we all used to :p Not gonna bother with the new faction. And they better throw in a free +9 sigil for the xmas/ny event or i'll just cascade charm my weap and put my jd future in the hands of statistics ^^
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    Post by Necroloth 19/12/2012, 19:43

    Hazzy!!!

    ooooh.. a free +9 sigil... that would be very nice!

    btw, do any of you guys play on xbox360? I've been playing that more as it's much quicker and easier to pick something up to play on it for a short while than JD! If you do, lemme know your gamer tag thing (I'm still new at this, only activated Xbox Live 2 days ago lol).
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    Post by AniLiem 20/12/2012, 17:10

    no way they give +9 free sigil so chill out!!!

    as for the new update i just wait for the esper ascension or whatever to unite my jad esper with my chi bottle Very Happy and if u wonder why just look up the esper skills and u will understand
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    Post by TheHazard 20/12/2012, 20:17

    Well in ZX they gave their players a dragon sigil for being online a certain amount of time. And last year we had the sigil event with the drops. So this year i want another one:p

    And yea, the esper ascension sounds nice. I've got a few thousand proficiency left on my wand before it hits 35, gonna do that today:p
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    Post by Necroloth 21/12/2012, 04:20

    I've got a lvl35 sceptre and a Hand of Vim... what espers do you think would go with each of them... or should i combine them both?
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    Post by AniLiem 21/12/2012, 16:37

    what is archaia reputation ?? and which one is best for jadeon dagos ?
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    Post by AniLiem 22/12/2012, 03:56

    lets break it down

    whats new whats modified whats nerfed ??

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    Post by Necroloth 24/12/2012, 22:20

    or someone can write down a brief summary of new stuff/instances and any tricks to kill bosses etc Very Happy
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    Post by TheHazard 11/1/2013, 22:57

    I tried that elemental temple thingy 2 times so far, but I dno, I dont like it. Maybe cuz I havent succeeded so far :p

    And i made a voida after all, but im just lvling it up by taking it with me in mth.

    Some changes for my faction are more hp in demonic, so i'm at 106k instead of 85k unbuffed. Which is nice cuz a lot of my skills deal extra dmg based on my hp. Apart from that some skills are no longer bugged, e.g. my skill dmg buff no longer prevents me from talking to npc's or switching charms/equipment in pvp. Sky Seeker is supposed to be more effective too now, but since I no longer tomed it, I havent use it in action yet.

    Then, Esper ascension. The items you need for it are dropped by Shura-, KL wonderland- and some kunlun bosses. Also by moontop bosses, but you need to spam the fumes quest for it a lot of times. A lvl35 esper will go back to lvl28 upon ascending. If it's lower than 30 it will revert to lvl1. More info about this is in the forum sticky.

    What else is new:-? Oh yes, archaia.

    Ive done a couple of mandats there, seems you can build up your own bound yuan crystals. Lvl2-3 crystals are rewarded for doing mandats and other quests from npc's. And in sunstream (elemental temple npc), you can build up your yuans. 3x lvl2 = 1x lvl3, and so on... So quick math, for a lvl8 yuan you'll need 729 lvl2's and for a lvl9, 2187 lvl2 crystals. Archaia also offers something like contracts, with rewards that can be exchanged for some kind of honor. With that honor you can get stuff at some npc's in archaia (for instance yuans and titles and some other things i forgot). That's all i know about it so far. I only go in daily to do the dragon astrolabe quest.

    That's about everything I guess. Still gutted we didnt get the sigil like zx. I've been on the verge of cascade charming my weap, but I'll try to get a yuan lvl8 first to upgrade my 135+8 weap, in case I would fail the st Very Happy
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    Post by Necroloth 14/1/2013, 19:24

    oooh, I haven't done any of those stuff yet lol... just don't get the time anymore. Free was telling me about those 4 bosses... like having to kill the spawns before the bosses on certain levels.. I forget which though :s

    With the VIP stuff out now, this game has really gone down the crapper - people are actually planning on subscribing to $10+/month? One of the levels is like $250 right?!?! WoW is only £10/month!!!!
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    Post by TheHazard 14/1/2013, 21:23

    Yea the instance is something tricky. I don't tinhk it's that hard, but a lot of teamwork is needed.
    Some people need to tranform while others tank etc, or destroying things that give the boss extra power,... Havent tried it anymore tho, maybe we can organize smtn once, with 6 ppl. Free, Ani, You, Me,...

    Indeed, the vip stuff is pretty insane. I was stunned to see so many vip icons next to player's names. Btw, you got any esperate mystery's left? I got someone who needs a gambler's cube esper, but the only way to get an esperate mystery nowadays is through exchange with the jd maiden. And a welkin green jade (~23k) is a bit outrageous imo Very Happy

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    Post by Necroloth 14/1/2013, 22:36

    Yup, still got some left... any reason for the cube? How much would the mystery fetch nowadays?

    btw, you know with this esper fusion thingy? Can you fuse as many as you want and have more esper skills? Also, when you fuse, it also affects the skill itself? Or are they two different things?
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    Post by TheHazard 14/1/2013, 22:58

    The reason for the cube is to inherit the skill to the main asc esper. But purely for grinding reasons, since it adds some nice damage. I've added a lvl2+2 golden gourd skill to my wand for now (disarm+ sp drain). No idea about the price for a mystery, between 6 and 10k maybe? Based on the values of the 'best' espers in it.

    I havent tried fusing yet, I read it's something like boosting soulstones, you can accept/decline the changes. And it's meant to boost your main esper skill with extra effects. You can maximum add 8 effects to it i tihnk. Those effects are inherited from the esper you fuse to it. So for example esper A has an sp drain skill and B a bleed. Then after fusing, your main esper will (or might, cuz it's a chance i tinhk) have both effects in its esper skill.

    What I did was the third option 'inheritance'. That's just adding the skill of an unasc esper (can even have a different owner) to your main esper. You also add the tome/acc of the sacrificial esper in the process. And upon completion, the new skill will appear as a new esper skill (In my case LVL4, since I tawened the gourd to lvl2 first). You can add 5 skills max i tinhk.

    The awesome thing about this, is leveling up espers, since any esper skill use will increase the proficiency Very Happy So with 2 skills inherited you can continuously cast 3 esper skills and level up in no time.
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    Post by Necroloth 14/1/2013, 23:42

    you did the third option? you have fusion and inheritance... have I missed one?

    So I have a level 2 Hand of Vim (also have tome+acc) and also a level 2 Soul Sceptre... what do you advise I do with these? I have a few esperate mysteries too... Very Happy
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    Post by TheHazard 15/1/2013, 00:00

    Ah, I meant the third option at the ascending npc in ss (Ascension, Fusing, Inheritance) Very Happy

    Hmm I would ascend the scepter and inherit the vim skill. Or ascend both, and fuse the vim to the scepter and pray the fusion process succeeds Very Happy

    Lemme know if you're selling 1/2 of the esperate mysteries, and price^^


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    Post by Necroloth 15/1/2013, 00:24

    oooh wait...

    can you quickly jot down what Ascension, Fuse and Inheritance do in 3 separate paragraphs? I am a simple person and needs things obvious lol. Also note any effects on resistance stats.

    how many mysteries would you like? I'll see how many I have and mail them to you (are you in game daily to check mail?). You need to tell me which espers though as I can't mail the mystery itself. I trust you to mail me an adequate amount - you know my vend account - just give it to NecroVend Smile This is in case you don't see me and I don't want to risk losing money through the post lol.

    Reckon I should level up other espers? Which and what should I do with them? I have sp burn and hp regen with Sceptre... HoV has chance to debuff but is there better ones? Is Golden Gourd or Dragon Wheel better? Any other you reckon?
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    Post by TheHazard 15/1/2013, 01:30

    Ok so:

    Ascension:

    Needed: Lvl30+ esper & Ascension orb (drops from bosses)
    Result: Ascended esper, with higher stats (white & green), reduced in level though (35->28, 30->1)
    I will post my stat increases when I'm home, but they're very nice. Also, ascending at 35 is better than 34, 33, etc. It works a bit like ascension 135 vs 150.
    Esper will look differently. Any esper can ascend.

    Fusion
    Needed: 2x ascended esper (main + sacrificial) & esper fusion manual
    Result: I'm not sure about this one. As I read it, it should transfer skill effects from the secondary esper to the main one. But there's also stated that you randomly get 1-8 extra effects. So im not sure how those effects are determined. Especially when I look at espers that don't have 8 possible effects:-? (like most of them). So this one is still a bit blurry for me. You can accept/decline the changes, but the secondary esper will be destroyed nonetheless. When you reach 8 extra effects, the visuals of the esper will change again. Fusing will not affect your esper's stats afaik.

    Inheritance

    Needed: Asc. Esper & Sacrificial (non-asc) esper + tome/acc of that esper

    Result: Asc main esper with extra esper skill. This skill will appear in the second esper skill slot.
    The skill level will be +2 cuz you used the acc/tome in the process. So minimum lvl3, max lvl5.
    Secondary esper will be sacrificed, as well as tome/acc. This won't influence your main esper's stats as well. Max 5 extra skills can be added.


    About the mysteries, I'd like 2 gambler cubes then please^^

    And concerning other espers... If you're interested in a silence skill, I got a lvl2 Taen+tome/acc Linky. I already have a good silence skill so i dont need it. Modo 105 esper is nice too to inherit. Fan of bard would be nice for you too (extra dmg based on sp). Oh, and spirittrap banner is kinda nice too for pvp. Here's an overview of all the espers: http://jd-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/List_of_Espers
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    Post by Necroloth 15/1/2013, 01:47

    I most likely will be on this Friday evening ... reckon you'll be on?

    Where do you get esper fusion manual for? It's the Ascension orb that's going for silly money right? Are the bosses hard though? Could I solo it?

    As I understand with Inheritance, you can do as many espers as you want and you can right click on the slot and choose which esper skills to fill? Is this right? If this is right... which esper would you reckon would be best? Sceptre + Firmus? Also... what happens when you use Ruby Pagoda which already has 2 skills? And does the skill reset come along with it?
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    Post by TheHazard 15/1/2013, 02:07

    I'll probably be home friday around 19.00gt

    The asc orb and fusion manuals both drop from the bosses. They are easy, but the problem is that they are camped constantly by overpowered parties. The orb price is insane yea, about 50k. The fusion manuals go for 8-10k.

    And yea, you can choose which of the inherited skills to appear on the esper bar. Although I'm hoping I can drag n drop a third on my other skills slots. So I could grind with 3 esper skills.

    No idea about the best, depends on faction and playstyle Very Happy Firmus & Scepter is god mode of course. But meh, I'd never waste any of those just to have the skill. Too expensive^^
    I might add a sinister orb skill one day, cuz the sp drain is nice too and it's less expensive than scepter. But that's smtn for the distant future:p

    Not sure about Ruby Pagoda, been thinking about that, but im afraid only the primary skill will be added. Cuz the 2nd skill only appears when you equip the tome/acc. But it could be...
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    Post by Necroloth 15/1/2013, 02:26

    Any bosses that spawn at obscure times in the night? I'll see if I can get them lol.

    Is Fusion affected by esper levels? You say they both have to be ascended.. but is there any benefit if they're both lvl35 ascended?

    I'll see ya Friday hopefully Smile

    EDIT : Holy pants, just read that green stats are increased by 20% when you ascend! Best invest in some of those green stat boosters!
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    Post by TheHazard 15/1/2013, 02:43

    Well the most accessible imo is the dystopia bird. It spawns late in the evening (20-21h). And you need to break the egg yourself. In order to do that you need to collect 25 burning bloods from mobs in the dungeon, and exchange those for the hammer. Sometimes the boss is camped, but ive been there a couple of times when no one was there. We need 3 persons including a sky to kill it tho, cuz it causes a nasty bleed. Apart from that one, most bosses are camped.

    I don't tihnk the esper level influences the fusion.

    And also, I tihnk it doesnt matter if you pump up green stats before ascending. Cuz when I add e.g. an attack gem now, it will go up 2 or 3 points (like 2 - 3 - 2 -3 ...), instead of just 2.
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    Post by Necroloth 15/1/2013, 02:58

    I think I got enough burning blood... or at least I used to lol.. I'll check my stash of dusty goods!

    Hrmm... I could possibly have a 150asc fuwa sky on Wink But I don't like multiplaying like that cos it's hard to co-ordinate and make sure neither character dies lol. Will my raja's not help? Although that will mostly help me only lol... also I got more debuff skills, wonder if it works on bleeds!

    You sure when you ascended, the green stat didn't go up by 20%?

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